What do you know about risk taking? I am sure you have heard
the clichés about how it is necessary today to do more than just follow the
standard line in order to change the world. In my interview with Rebecca you
will hear how risk-taking, learning and teaching intersect to instill the
ability to changes lives—your own and many others too.
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Can you tell us a
little about yourself? Where did you grow up and go to secondary school and
undergraduate university? What did you major in and what was your overall
experience like? How did you like your classes, the students and the teachers?
Both my parents worked at a university, so I attended the
primary and middle school attached to that institution, since most of the
faculty and staff live in the apartments on campus provided by the university.
Such an environment sounds great as students, parents and teachers know each
other, but I felt suffocated. I completed my junior study at 13, then was
admitted to a top high school locally and attended a university in another city
three years later.
My best subject was Math, my ideal major was Law, but I
stumbled into English. Most of my classmates in university were passionate
about their English majors, and worked hard to master the language, so being
surrounded by them pushed me to succeed. I enjoyed my classmates and the teachers
were great, too. They treated each of us fairly, whether we were top students
or students at risk. I was really proud of myself in those years. I was awarded
“the best student of the year” twice and won many other honors. I was also a
recipient of university scholarships for the whole four years.
Rebecca, graduation ceremony |
Why did you decide to
attend the University of Nottingham’s English Language Teaching Program for a
Master’s Degree? Can you describe the program and what skills you learned that
have been useful for you since then?
For me, teaching itself is a process of constant improvement
from practice to theory and to practice again. Having taught English for five
years, which might be equivalent to attending another 4 or 5-year University, I
felt it was time to acquire solid theoretical knowledge of English Language
Teaching (ELT) from English-speaking countries. The ELT program at the U. of
Nottingham was co-offered by the School of English and the School of Education
in the year I was admitted. Applicants needed to have at least two years’
teaching experience. It provided a broad course of study in language teaching and
linguistics. I also had the opportunities to work with several world-renowned
experts to expand my own expertise in language teaching and applied
linguistics.
Modules of this program explored ELT from multiple
perspectives, including Second Language Acquisition, motivation and individual
learner differences, materials evaluation and design, discourse analysis, and
corpus linguistics, among others. All have been very useful for my later
jobs as lead teacher in a Chinese institute and academic manager in an American
Education organization evaluating classes delivered by native English speaking teachers.
By taking into consideration individual student’s differences, I helped to
design specific learning materials and curricula to motivate students at different
levels; I combined theoretical and ideological dimensions with practical
applications in English Language Teaching to guide my own teaching and give
other teachers feedback.
In addition, some basic communication skills I developed in
England enabled me to interact appropriately with Westerners while working with
uncooperative English Directors of Studies; to make presentations; and to do
effective research.
One of your job
experiences has been as a Lead Teacher at one of the best universities in
China, Shanghai Jiao Tong University. Can you describe what this experience was
like?
Apart from teaching classes such as Advanced
Interpretation and Presentation Skills, I was in charge of corporate training
and online courses sponsored by Hujiang, the biggest online language-learning
platform in China and a counterpart of Coursera. I developed curricula and
updated learning materials according to accredited standards. The adapted
teaching approaches were designed to suit students of different levels. This method
has greatly increased students’ interest in learning English and furthered
their language abilities. The project I managed also helped the school to
generate 200% growth in the number of partner companies in the first two
quarters of that year.
Online teaching ignited the reform of education. Leveraging
the Internet for education is sure to attract more attention from educators
worldwide.
You have taken a
number of courses from Coursera and earned certificates. Why have you done this
and how good were the courses? Would you recommend them to others?
I have recommended Coursera or EdX to many friends around me
especially those who plan to learn something new. The development of the
internet provides a good and convenient platform for lifelong learners.
Coursera is one fine example of such development. There are so many courses
uploaded on Coursera, and learners can choose what they want by majors,
universities or languages. It’s very helpful and it’s FREE. Students can also
go to course forum discussing problems they encounter.
The reason I registered for Coursera courses was to satisfy
my hunger for new experiences and learning. I delivered E-courses on Hujiang,
but I had never taken any courses online myself. Therefore, I wanted to experience
it from the prospect of a learner. In addition, I took some courses I thought I
would be interested in to see if that interest might lead me to a different
Master’s or Ph.D. program in the future.
Rebecca's Coursera certificate |
What do you think makes a good teacher? Are
you a good teacher?
Generally, when Chinese parents define good teachers, they
may initially focus on teachers’ “achievements,” such as how high their classes’
average scores are or how many of their students are admitted by top
universities. For me, a good teacher should be knowledgeable--this is fundamental--but
he must also respect each student and should think of his students as his
equals.
Mrs. Thompson from a real story called “Three Letters from
Teddy” is a very good example. She believes in her students and makes her
students feel important. A good teacher
is not just a subject master, he should know how to teach students to fish so
they can eat for a lifetime; and tell students how to conduct themselves in
society. A good teacher possesses great personal charisma and is beloved by
most of his students.
For me, teaching was at first a job, a way of making living.
I had never thought that I would love it until one day I read students’ notes
saying that they enjoyed my classes; that I’d revitalized their interest in
learning a foreign language; that they were moved that I had never given up on
them. They are my friends, and I believe I am theirs too. They often came to me
sharing their stories in study and life. What a rewarding job! Whenever I think
back on the moment that the President announced my name at the students’
Graduation Ceremony as the “Most Popular Teacher of the Class,” I am still moved
beyond measure. I knew at that moment that I couldn’t have made it without
those lovely students.
Since then you have
spent a number of years as a Regional Account Director at ACT Education
Solutions. Can you describe what it is you do and what you like about your job?
One of the main programs of ACT Education Solutions (AES) is
the Global Assessment Certificate (GAC), which was designed to help non-native
speakers become academically and culturally ready to attend schools in
English-speaking countries. It’s a global program and GAC schools are around
the world, but China is the biggest market where there are amazingly over 100
schools. GAC students are allowed to take the ACT test in the schools where
they successfully complete GAC courses.
The job of the Regional Account Director (RAD) is to ensure
compliance with applicable contract requirements and all AES policies and
procedures, provide program management leadership and provide compliance
supervision for schools. There are two main roles that a RAD plays:
administrative and academic. Tasks range from developing strategic plans in
support of sales and branding activities to resolving complex school cases to
guiding schools through university application procedures; from developing
teachers’ ongoing development programs to leading worldwide academic workshops
to administering and auditing ACT tests in local schools.
It is a job that requires a combination of several skills. The
RAD has to have a high degree of collaborative competence as well as very
strong organizational abilities and superior cross-cultural communication
skills. I enjoyed this job very much! I had never been so busy and so
multi-tasked before, but it was immensely rewarding. The Event Videos I created
for each Professional Academic Conference are still being used by AES.
I have been reading a
number of comments and descriptions from educators about students from China
lately and many of them are not good: Here is just one: “China is behind the curve when it comes to
innovation in education. They promote only rote memory no critical thinking no
creative thinking. The next politician that says American education needs to be
more like China needs to have brain surgery. The test scores are all eschewed
because of the competition system and the cheating. Yes I said cheating. When a
public Chinese school hands out copies of the tests and instruct the students
to learn (memorize) the answers that is cheating. I know this because I have
seen it with my own eyes. I have lived in Beijing now for four years and the
system is not better in the time I have observed.”
How would
respond to this comment? Is it accurate in any way and if so how pervasive are
the issues he raises?
I’m surprised that a public school would allow such cases to
happen and the teacher wasn’t caught at all. Statistics show that students all
over the world cheat more than they used to. My teachers at any of the schools
I attended had never been so “generous” as to hand out test questions before
exams. But there were cases when I was in junior middle school that a history
teacher asked us to be prepared for certain questions and threatened that he
would test us in a quiz.
The National Higher Education Entrance Examination (Gaokao),
which is held once annually at the end of the school year, is pretty much the
only thing that matters when it comes to determining whether or not Chinese
students can attend university. Test centers are assigned randomly to students,
and cheating in the exams would be even more difficult than taking the exams.
However, there are always a few daredevils every year who attempt to cheat, but
they rarely get away with it and when caught, they have to wait for 3 years to
take the test again. If teachers handed out answers to test questions to
students before tests, it would do nothing to truly benefit students. It
damages schools, too, in terms of their reputation, graduation rate as well as
top university admission rate. Teachers get no bonus for students’ mediocre
performance, assuming that most students won’t progress or even get worse by
being fed correct answers, and those schools will have a great number fewer new
students the following year because of schools’ deteriorating reputations. So,
for any normal school, be it public or private, it’s nothing but a
self-destructive behavior.
I agree that neither critical thinking nor creative thinking
is well promoted in Chinese schools. Schools are still very score-oriented. An
article “Chinese Educators Look to American Classrooms” published in the New York Times last year contrasted
classrooms in China with the United States. Yes, Chinese students are ill nurtured
to become “book-cramming robots”, which is diametrically opposed to the
nation’s original intention of education. Memorization fits a style of learning
that was used before the technology revolution but with the changing focus and
requirements of business and industry, it does not seem to be the only method
to help prepare graduates for success, nor is it the best method.
I would recommend another article written by Howard Gardner,
a professor of education at Harvard University, “Learning, Chinese Style.” It’s
true that Chinese value skills more than originality and independence. Chinese
parents and teachers worry that skills may never be acquired if they are
developed late, whereas, Westerners fear that creativity may never emerge if it
is stimulated later.
Without a doubt, China’s education needs major surgery. In
effect, some surgeries were being conducted years ago, and they will continue
their steps for better education. However, it takes time. It may take another
10 years, or even longer.
Unfortunately, people like to exaggerate problems. Whenever
they find something wrong, they blindly believe that any education outside of
the country is better. They quote words out of context to suit certain
purposes; some may even publish articles criticizing every bit of their own
education system in the name of Western scholars and educators.
I am not afraid of criticism. I welcome criticism of China,
because it is helpful for development and improvement. Having worked in the
education field for almost 15 years in China, I know it is on the way to
improving itself. There are obstacles preventing radical reforms from happening
overnight, but it’s moving.
You have recently
been visiting schools in China, Can you tell us what you find when you go
there? Is education in China changing and if so in what ways? How has it
changed since you were a student?
Students are still under much pressure studying for National
Entrance Examinations (Gaokao). Many teachers or parents comment that the situation
won’t change much if a Gaokao revolution doesn’t take place. Students now seem
to have much heavier workload than those students at my age had, although the
admission rate has increased by almost 40%. On top of that workload, they are
supposed to participate in social activities, or some group projects, which I
was not required to do as a student. Gaokao has been experiencing reforms over
the past ten years, but it’s still on its way to a brand new phase.
An increasing number of Chinese high schools now are doing
international programs such as IB, AP and A-level, so that their students have
easier access to Western Education and higher possibilities of studying abroad
for a Bachelor’s degree. Students nowadays have many more choices and
opportunities.
Multimedia instruction is widely used in classrooms, and
teachers are required to be more versatile than before in terms of subject
knowledge, PowerPoint-type applications and extracurricular activities.
Are you at all worried about the huge
influx of students into the US especially those that enroll many hundreds or
even thousands? Do these students get enough training in soft skills and enough
opportunity to mix in with other students? Do you think Chinese students should
go to schools with such huge populations of Chinese students around them?
Yes, I do worry. I am worried about both, the huge influx of
students, and US schools that have large Chinese student enrollments. I hope
that applicants know why they are rushing to the States for further education.
If they are not clear about why they are making such a big movement, at least,
they should make sure that they are ready, both linguistically and
academically, to experience a new life abroad. As a developed country, America
has the largest number of top universities and best education in the world.
It’s appropriate and reasonable that students look forward to getting the best
education. However, to an individual student, the best should mean the most
suitable.
I don’t understand why many hundreds or even thousands
attend one particular school. According to a survey I conducted recently, 99.6%
of Chinese students prefer to study on a campus with few Chinese students if
they are abroad, so that they can fully expose themselves to English. This
sounds reasonable, but the fact that they are all flocking to the same schools
defeats this very preference. It is not how many Chinese students are around
them that matters, but how determined are they to network with native friends
in unfamiliar surroundings.
I also can’t figure out why a school would enroll so many
Chinese students at once. Admission in the United States was believed to be
fair and strict, but either market demands or financial crisis cast a grey
color over it. Students who failed to go to high schools or universities in
China are desperate to find a way “out.” And they seem to be easily locating a
spot abroad. Whatever future they may have, they may not care at the moment.
Getting out of China seems to be the first imperative for them.
What are the skills
you would want to tell students in China to develop in secondary school or in
university that will prepare them to become global citizens?
Students had better know how to communicate effectively in a
foreign language that is spoken in the countries they will go to. Since most of
them choose English-speaking countries, verbal and written communication in
English is very necessary. Mastering English so that they can understand native
people and make themselves understood is critical. Cultural differences may
lead to potential issues, so cross-cultural communication becomes strategically
important.
Personal skills such as self-management and independent
learning are vital for the development of an individual. Students should be
responsible for themselves; they should know how to deal with pressure, and how
to prioritize tasks.
Skills are interdependent. Critical thinking can’t exist
without independent learning. Students need to learn to cultivate such skills
to deduce consequences from the information collected, and learn to make use of
information to solve problems. It helps greatly in cooperative reasoning and
constructive tasks.
Also, I hope that students develop a little social awareness
in terms of developing sensitivity to the needs of others and increasing sensitivity
to social justice. They can achieve this by serving in local communities, and
engaging in social activities on a regular basis.
Do you have any other
advice for students and parents in China who are thinking about education
abroad?
There are parents with kids of different ages often asking
me how they could send their child abroad. Some plan for their kids’ colleges;
some for high schools; some even have started to put together an entire plan
from primary school through college or even career when the children have just
completed kindergarten! The only advice I would like to give is to tell them to
ask themselves as many “Whys” as possible.
Why study abroad? Why this country? Why this time? Consider
idioms that say “look before you leap”, and “measure three times and cut once.”
Studying and living abroad alone could be a growth experience, but experience
is not a reason enough to convince oneself to go abroad. Be prepared to get yourself
psychologically ready as well as language and academically ready. No place is
Paradise. Studying abroad is by no means the only option. A parent asked me the
other day if I could help his daughter to register in a High School in the
States simply because her scores don’t meet the threshold of the domestic high
schools. I’m curious about why parents firmly believe that their kids are sure
to have a brighter future growing up in an alien environment.
Do you think you
would ever consider going back to work full-time in China to help students and
educators? Why or why not?
Absolutely. Unlike my friends who are loyal to a company or
a city for over 10 years or longer, I am astatic. I have adventure in my blood.
I enjoy the feeling of creating a vision and then acting upon it. From China to
U.K. to China to the States, I feel that I am always on the way, but living in
a way I like. “Where is the next stop or terminal?” I always ask myself. My
attempt at America doesn’t seem to be successful: I spent almost two years
seeking a job in the field of international education, and I still haven’t
landed one. I will never regret what I have decided, however, because I trust
in my heart that there is an opportunity ahead. Only if I continue working for
education, then China will be a stop or the terminal. I dream this sometimes
that I go somewhere else like Africa or South America to directly work with
educators there, to feel the pulse of students from different continents. In
case my next stop takes me to a Spanish-speaking environment, I’ve started Spanish
courses online.
Rebecca in China |
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Rebecca’s words have taught me a great deal. It’s no
surprise given that she is a star teacher who has changed lives in the
classroom and in her job promoting learning on-line too.
She is a part of the group of forward thinking educators who
know how important and and game changing on line learning is today. She has
both helped huge numbers of students improve their abilities through online
programs and learned quite a bit herself through MOOCs.
Every day the naysayers post opinions about on-line learning
that try to undercut its ability to teach students. While it is not a panacea
for all, on-line learning offers students options they would not have, either
because of economics, or distance from schools or a host of other factors.
While it is also true that many students who enroll in some of these programs
do not complete them, many thousands do and earn certificates—far more than what
a traditional school can offer on campus. In addition, the technology for some
of these programs is sophisticated enough to evaluate each individual student’s
answers to questions and use these to shape further assessments—something that
rarely happens on most colleges campuses around the globe.
If it sounds like I am a naïve cheerleader for on line
learning, I’m not. I know that a student who has the chance to attend a school
physically will experience many life-changing options tha cannot happen on-line.
But the issue of cost and access may outweigh the journey a student has to take
in order to learn certain skills. I think Rebecca and others in China and
around the globe have seen how much things have changed there in just a few
years and that schools need to be aware of how they could help students and
countries improve the level of education for may more people than traditional
schools do now.
I hope that many involved in international education will
pay attention to Rebecca’s words about students from China. Her expertise in teaching them should serve as a
model for others to emulate. It bears repeating that most students from China
do not want to study abroad only to be surrounded by other students from China.
They would prefer being in an environment in which they are immersed in a new
culture and in which they will be able to become both linguistically and
culturally fluent. I fear that some
schools around the world are placing far ore emphasis on enrolling full-paying
students rather than creating programs and opportunities that will best prepare
the students themselves for future success. (I have written more about this issue here).
I agree with Rebecca that the process of rote learning in
China is still too often the paradigm of choice. On the other hand, at many of the
top high schools and universities they are implementing efforts to instill critical
thinking, and supplemental learning through activities and service. It will
take some time for this to filter down throughout schools, but they have
invested much in learning from the West about critical thinking over the last
decade and I have been lucky enough to know many students from China who have
come to the US with a passion for learning that exceeds the vast majority of domestic
students.
Rebecca demonstrates ths with her willingness to travel the globe
in search of learning, the best instruction and new opportunities. Whether it be in China, the UK or the US, she
has been an outstanding example of the new generation of learners and teachers
who are also global citizens. Given all
of her success ad experiences I am saddened to now that there are not schools
and business in the US beating a path o her door to try to keep her talents
here.
If Rebecca dos go off to yet another continent, I have no
doubt she will bring her gifts and passion for students and learning with her.
She has many new and what I think will be great adventures ahead of her. I wish
to thank her for her exceptionally tailed and informative response to many hot
button issues in education. She has again proved why she is an award-winning
teacher.
“Language development, for instance, has a critical period that begins in infancy and ends between eight years and puberty. After this critical period closes, a person’s ability to learn a second language without an accent is limited. In fact, second languages learned after the critical period are not processed in the same part of the brain as is the native tongue.” The Brain That Changes Itself
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