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Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Jeff(s) questions: interview: categories are U.S.?



Aristotle’s intellect and range of knowledge, although not driven by religion, still begat the methodology of rational classification that we still use to today. He put things in order: rhetoric, drama, poetry, ethics botany, and a great deal of other things too. No one in the history of the world discovered and named so many tributaries to the flow of systematic thought. 

The last time I saw Jeff, he was reading Aristotle. No surprise. Jeff is a polymath and eclectic in his reading. These very traits are Aristotelian and yet the more you read his words the more you may learn know that categorization, while useful, does not begin to describe the complexities of the single person, play, or law. Jeff’s words in this first part of an interview will, I think, convince you of his intellect, but they also will, perhaps, surprise you.

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Jeff at Wailing Wall
Can you give us a little background on where and how you grew up? Given your schooling in Charleston would you say you feel like a southerner?

I was born in a medium-size (by Chinese standards) town in central China in 1990. My parents were physicians and during the early 1990s they worked in Beijing, so I spent some time there as well. Before we immigrated to the States they had spent two years doing postdoctoral research at a university in Israel (the Weizmann Institute), and I actually lived there during their second year there. This would have been 1995-96. It was a quite exciting time, because there was relative peace after the Oslo Accords so I remember traveling quite frequently, to Jerusalem and the Mediterranean and once also to Egypt. It was a fun childhood; I feel so lucky that among my first memories are experiences so vivid and varied. I think I've carried a deep appreciation for history ever since, because the places we went to just dripped with it.

Academic Magnet High School


In 1996 we moved to Charleston, South Carolina, where they worked at the medical university. I think my parents liked it because it's a historic and charming town, but it was definitely a far cry from China or Israel. The Charleston County School District gave me a superb education (though from fifth to eighth grade I was at a private--or as they call it, an independent--school, where I first fell in love with Greek myth and English verse, thanks Dr. Maynard!), and I feel really privileged that I went to one of the best public high schools in the nation--Academic Magnet High School. So while I know the city of Charleston fairly well and spent over half my life so far there (after which my family moved to Atlanta) and am now in Charlottesville, I don't feel the slightest bit like a Southerner. I have some good friends who are Southerners (one is currently the Vice Consul at the United States General Consulate in Jerusalem; he's from Muscle Shoals, AL--yes, the one referenced in 'Sweet Home Alabama'). I think there are three reasons for this: one based on personal history, one on cultural taste, and one political.

The first is simple: I spent the first six years of my life outside the United States, so from the beginning I've had a rather international outlook. Furthermore, the vast majority of my extended family lives in China, where I visit every few years, and my parents are not Southern either. This leads to the second reason: I feel I would relate more to the immigrant or urban, northeastern American experience and culture more than the Southern one. Lastly, I feel that the political culture in the South has never been able to get over the aftermath of the Civil War.



Don't get me wrong, I don't want to stereotype all Southerners as backward, close-minded racists, because the vast majority of the Southerners I've personally met have been friendly, decent, hospitable people. It's not really the people I'm thinking of, but the political atmosphere. I don't understand why some insist on calling the Civil War the War of Northern Aggression. Tariffs and states' rights were not the essential sources of conflict of the Civil War but were only secondary to the South's "peculiar institution" and used to justify it. Nullification and states' rights were used throughout the civil rights era to try to prevent school integration. Why whitewash history and try to pretend this nullification was about states' rights mainly and not about the prevention of the passage of civil rights and racial equality? Why sugarcoat this ignominious period of Southern history as the Lost Cause of the Confederacy? One may think I'm reviving the ghosts of a bygone era, but while the South (and United States as a whole) has greatly progressed from the terrors of Jim Crow, there are still segregated neighborhoods, wide income gaps, racially charged Tea Party populism and "Southern strategies" during elections.

Stonewall Jackson


I understand why General Sherman might strike a nerve in Southern society, but how can it not have a pang of conscience at having statues of Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson everywhere? Near where my family lives in suburban Atlanta is Stone Mountain. Why is there, in 2013, still a giant bas-relief of Jefferson Davis? I'm not certain, since I haven't deeply studied this issue, but I feel there's a certain insecurity about identity, as if openly denouncing the Confederacy and its memorials would be a renunciation of Southern culture.

But I think this is wrongheaded and perhaps dangerous because I know Southerners have a long and proud cultural tradition that does not originate from the Confederacy and can stand even taller without it. Hospitality and cuisine are prized among white and black communities throughout the South. Southern literature boasts among the greatest in the American literary canon--Faulkner, Tennessee Williams, Truman Capote, Harper Lee, Eudora Welty, and Flannery O'Connor. Charleston has the oldest museum in the United States and one of American's first synagogues. 'Porgy and Bess' was set there, and Menotti chose Charleston as Spoleto's partner for his Festival of the Two Worlds. Charleston's Gullah culture and cuisine is a unique blend of West African, West Caribbean, and American culture. Why not celebrate these things more? It would do no dishonor to the South to have fewer statues of Stonewall Jackson and more of William Faulkner. So that's why I think history still haunts the South. It's like Faulkner said, the past isn't dead. It's not even past.



What sorts of things were you involved with in high school that added to the person you are today?

I loved talking about current events and was in the debate club as well as the academic team. I think high school really developed my bookish personality. I remember being assigned the 'Guns of August' the summer before AP European History and being blown away by it (thanks Dr. Bures!). It was just such an amazing read that I've been kind of absorbed by history since then.

How important is your family to you? How important is your Asian heritage. You have said that you never encountered any form of racism toward you, yet many Asian students have. Why do you think you did not encounter this? Are racial relations in your town/school limited to more black/white issues?

My family is of paramount importance to me, but I don't think I really even began to understand what familial love meant until I was on my own. I went to school hundreds of miles away. I think the change was moderated by the fact that I had traveled abroad alone before, but even in these cases there were relatives in the places I went. But really when you're on your own you have a sense of being liberated but also incredibly lost. I don't think I went to bed at a regular hour more than 30 times during college. So it takes time to know what you miss and what you've taken for granted to understand the importance of family.



My parents love to impress on me my Chinese heritage. Their attempts were, alas, often in vain. Not that I was ashamed of my heritage--I simply found it boring. A lot of Chinese history and literature seemed mystifying, and I couldn't really get into it. But over time you realize that this is quite natural--it's not really expected for a native English speaker to grasp Confucius as fast or as pleasurably as Shakespeare. Learning and mastering the language really is the first step toward an intimate relationship with culture.



I never encountered outright racism, but stereotypes are unavoidable. I feel the main negative stereotype for Asians is that we're not full Americans. In my case the blow is softened because I actually am from China even if I was raised in the US, but Asian Americans born in the US probably are puzzled if not offended when asked "Where are you from?" as if the one asking were expecting a faraway locale in a country far away rather than an address a few blocks away. But I hung out with mostly immigrant kids in school, and if there were racial issues at school we weren't really in the loop; however, our school was really quite a gem; magnet schools draw top students and all of them are motivated, so there is a certain homogeneity that transcends race: everyone got along rather well. The social groups were more limited to nerd vs. jock. 



Details upset the quiet science of abstraction. How so? Is Jeff a typical southerner?  A ‘true’ southerner? Proud of the South, but the South of those who have written its epics in novels and operas.



Does Jeff’s heritage exclude him from the stamp of southern authenticity? Does Jeff’s heritage permit him to understand some of the subtleties of southern culture tat other southerners might not?

Is Jeff, given your experience, a typical Asian? Why or why not? What is a typical Asian? Is there really such a thing? We certainly have check boxes on applications and lots of data on Asians but are these categories really all that useful? Just last week a report suggested that the use of the category of Asian in the US hides a huge range of cultures and backgrounds under a single racial category. Categories, from Aristotle on, have helped us shape the infinite complexity of the world into groups. But groups are not ‘true’ they are pragmatic tools we use to help us; on the other hand, sometimes we need to reach for new tools to help us understand things more precisely, or in this case, more humanly.

Tomorrow, Jeff talks about his experience of heading north to the University of Chicago. Once again, his responses don’t easily fit into the categories of Asian or Southerner or math guy.




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