If you had the chance to travel the world would you do it? I
think most of us would answer yes. What if I added that you would do this on
your own often with just a backpack hitching rides across Sub-Saharan Africa? I
think many of us would begin to rethink our answer. Would you risk your life to
help someone who’s been in a terrible accident? Would you go choose to spend
many days and nights in the equatorial jungle with a tank crew? I think at this point most of us would say
no.
Yix is not like most of us. His willingness to explore the
world and himself is inspirational. He embodies character traits that make him
a leader whether it’s in banking or the military or with his family. His words
should undermine some of the fixed opinions about what an examined life really
is. Part of it is exploring the world, but a lot of it is exploring the
landscape within our minds and hearts.
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First off can you tell
us a bit about you and your family?
I'm a fourth generation born and bred Singaporean. Both
sides of my family migrated from Fujian province in China to Singapore. From
the stories I've heard, both my grandfathers were successful businessmen who
developed opium habits and gambled away their fortunes. My grandmothers were
more sensible. They raised their families and ran the family business the best
they could. Both my parents graduated from university, which was very rare in
their day. In 1960s Singapore, only ~2% of the population had the equivalent of
a high school diploma. It was even rarer for women to attend university.
Before I was born, my family lived in London and Hong Kong
for several years before moving back to Singapore. As the youngest of 3
siblings, I was the only child to be born and bred in Singapore. I lived in
Singapore till I finished my compulsory military service at 21 years old, and
subsequently left to study in the US. I spent almost a decade abroad till
recently returning home.
I know this takes you
back a ways, but you have been posting some great photos lately of when you
were in school. Where did you attend secondary school and how would you
describe the school and your experience in it? How intense was the pressure
among so many great students?
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| Yix in Secondary School |
The Singapore education system is often compared to a
pressure cooker. There are national exams that chart your future when you're 12
(Primary School Leaving Examinations), 16 (O’Levels) and 18 years old (A’Levels).
Your results determine which school you go to, and how rigorous your education
will be. As much as the system breeds academic excellence, it ends up being a
self-reinforcing elitist system. Good students go to good schools and continue
to get good results, and vice versa.
I didn't do well in my PSLE exams when I was 12, and went to
an average secondary school. It was humbling given both my older siblings went
to elite secondary schools. Academics never interested me much, so I was a
straight B- student who held his head down in shame whenever I brought home my
grades to my parents. For 10 years, every teacher I had said something along
the lines of "needs to work harder". Needless to say, my parents
were very worried about me!
One often-overlooked side of the Singaporean education system
is its emphasis on after school activities. Everyone ends up being very
involved in school, except during the years when they're sitting for a national
exam. I joined the National Police Cadet Corps (think of it as the police Boy
Scouts), ran in track meets, and was a school prefect. Being from a smaller
school, I got more leadership opportunities and got the chance to step up more.
I loved my time in secondary school and made lifelong friends.
When I turned 16, the O Levels rolled along and the pressure
ratcheted back up. Teachers would march into class, draw a bell curve, point to
the far left side and tell us we were in the bottom 20th percentile! It was
their way of "motivating" us, but for most of us, it accomplished the
opposite. Don’t get me wrong; I also had several great teachers who pushed me
in more constructive ways which I owe a debt of gratitude to. Several months
before the O Levels, I realized this was made or break time. I hunkered down
and studied like I never did before. I ended up being one of the top students
from my secondary school and was the valedictorian for my year. After which I
went to a good junior college and got decent results for my A Levels.
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| Yix with Secondary School Classmates |
What do you think
about the compulsory service requirement that all males from Singapore must
complete? You had some options about where you would go and you choose a very
challenging assignment. Can you tell us a bit about it and how this may have
changed you in some ways? Do you think other countries should require service?
Like all Singaporean males, I spent 2 years in the military
(2 years, 2 months to be exact) after junior college when I was 18. Every boy
harbors some resentment at the government for taking away the 2 best years of
their youth. Despite this, the army was my first "real" job and I did
the best I could. I left the army as a sergeant in an armored regiment, in
charge of a section (7 men and a tank) and at times a platoon (24 men and 3
tanks).
The army was the most formative experience of my life. I
learnt to be a leader, a follower, and a team player. I discovered what it felt
like to be utterly beaten down and exhausted, yet still have to lead soldiers
to get the job done. I met people I'd never have met, some who were extremely
capable and others who were the opposite. Either way I was stuck with them and
had to make do. The responsibility the army gives you is daunting. It goes
without saying that 18 year olds, tanks, live ammunition and the jungle are a
volatile combination. Accidents happen, mainly due to exhaustion and neglect. I
remember the fathers of my soldiers telling me, “This is my son, he is a boy. Give me back a man”, and not thinking
about “man-building” of any sort, but how to make sure these sons went home
safe and sound.
The most profound impact the army had on me was the
confidence to take on things I'd normally have shied away from. Whether it was
taking on a new sport, ignoring an authority figure telling me something isn't
possible, or chasing a dream. I'm not sure this is a "normal"
byproduct of 2 years of regimentation, but it's something I walked away
with!
Like most things in life, how much you get out of the army
depends on how much you put into it and how willing you are to adapt. For the
most part, I think almost everyone emerges from the experience a better person.
As much as I like the concept of a citizen army, I realize that there are
people out there who are not born to be soldiers. Some boys enter the army and
emerge broken physically or emotionally. Given we live in peaceful and gentler
times, I don't know if this price is worth it even in my country, let alone in
others! I do know I want my future children to have the same experience I
did.
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| Yix with his Army section |
Can you talk a bit
about why you decided to go to university in the US? Can you talk too about the
application process—how did you decide where to apply and why you chose the
school you did?
Both my older siblings went to U.S. universities, my sister
to Yale and my brother to Columbia. I was headed to university in Singapore
till I sat in on a few lectures in a local university and realized I wanted a
liberal arts education instead. Singapore universities are similar to U.K
universities; you have to choose a course of study and you don't have much
freedom beyond that.
So in my second year in the army, I took my SATs Is and IIs
and started applying to universities. It wasn't easy. I remember writing
application essays in a tank at night under a flashlight and taking practice
SAT exams in my bunk after coming back from several days in the jungle. Once
while disciplining a soldier, I accidentally used several words I'd just learnt
from my SAT vocabulary books, which led to some confusion...
I knew I wanted an undergraduate business education plus the
freedom to take liberal arts courses, so that helped narrow down the schools I
applied to. I applied to NYU, Georgetown, Michigan, Northwestern and UVA. In an
odd twist in fate, my sister forgot to mail in my application package to
Michigan till months after the due date, so I received a letter from Michigan
telling me they liked me but had to waitlist me. Ever the underperformer in all
things academic, I was rejected by every other school except UVA! With only one
option on the table, it was an easy choice to make.
Can you talk about
your university experience? Was the transition harder or easier than you
thought it would be?
Coming to university after an almost 3 year hiatus was
harder than expected. I found myself the "grown up" foreign 21
year old "army man" among 18 year olds who were eager to party.
To say that I stuck out would be an understatement. In one bizarre instance, my
dorm set up a wrestling ring and I ended up being the undefeated dorm champion.
One former state wrestling champion challenged me to a match but I wisely
declined, saying I had to studying for a test. So I somehow got the bizarre
reputation as a pugilist in my dorm that persists to this day… Overall given
how strange I must have seemed, I’m very lucky the UVA community accepted me
with open arms!
Academically, the freedom to choose your own coursework was
a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately my brain had fossilized after the army and
it took time for it to adjust. I do think that being older and having been
deprived anything academic for three years ultimately motivated me to do well
in school.
Can you talk about
what you chose to study and why? Did you find mentors who helped you in and out
of class?
As long as I can remember, I've had an interest in business
and investing. Growing up, I'd listen to both my parents chat about work and
chime in on occasion. I also remember picking up a book about value investing
in my teens and thinking it made a lot of sense. So it seemed natural to study
business, and the UVA McIntire School of Commerce was the logical step.
As an "older" student, I felt some self-inflicted
pressure to finish school early. When another Singaporean student told me he
planned to apply to the commerce school after his first year (versus the normal
applicant who applies after his second year), I leapt at the chance. Many
professors made themselves available to be mentors. As helpful as they were, I
think my fellow students helped me the most academically and with the job
search.
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| Commerce Dean with students in Singapore Aero Engine Services Private Limited (SAESL) |
What about your life
away from classes? Who did you hang out with? Did you find yourself having
mostly friends from Singapore or did you extend yourself out into the broader
community? Do you think international students in general do enough to become
culturally fluent In US culture?
I lived in UVA's new dorms during my first year, instead of
the International Residence College (IRC). This was by no means planned. Had I
known about the IRC and its facilities, I would have definitely applied to live
there. It all worked out in the end though. I made great friends with my first
year suitemates, who were all from the U.S. I even got to know their families
well and spent Thanksgiving dinner with my roommate's family for 3 years. I
also made great friends from my block in the commerce school.
Through all this, I remained close with the Singapore
students. I was lucky enough to enter the commerce school with a number of
them, and we helped each other out with coursework and the job hunt. It
probably helped that we were good students and other students (both Americans
and other international students) wanted to join us. Sometimes, being a nerd
helps!
I’m sure being an older student helped me assimilate
compared to other international students. By the time I came to college, I'd
spent 3 years away from the comforts of home, so I never experienced homesickness.
I also had life experiences under my belt few of my classmates had, so I was
comfortable in my own skin. They often say you go to college to grow up. In my
case I came to college grown up and had to lose some of that maturity to
assimilate. I'm still not sure if I ever got that maturity back!
You had what I
consider a pretty unique experience living on the top of mountain in a remote
place in which yaks figured into your life. Can you describe this experience
and why you chose to do this?
At the end of my first year just before I went to commerce
school, I figured summer school would be a good way to accumulate credits so I
could graduate college in 3 years. While looking at the online catalogue for
summer school courses, I saw UVA was leading a study abroad research program in
Tibet. I didn't know anything about Tibet, or UVA’s great Tibetan studies
program, but figured it would be interesting. So I applied and was accepted.
By sheer accident, I ultimately ended up being an unofficial
Teaching Assistant (TA) of sorts. The TA with us didn't speak the dialect of
Tibetan people spoke in the area, whereas most Tibetans spoke Mandarin, which
I'm at least partially fluent in. My time in the army probably helped me deal
with the austere conditions too. For example, at points of the trip, we'd only
get showers every week or so. Nothing prepared me for riding a wild
Tibetan horse owned by nomads by a ravine though…
In retrospect, being a Singaporean probably gave me a unique
advantage when it came to settling into both college life and
Tibet. Singapore's always been a crossroads between the East and West. One
commerce school professor labeled it “Asia-lite”, but one could just as easily
label it “West-lite”. Unlike many international students, I didn't have
the challenge of learning English in college, which was an immense advantage. A
lot gets lost in translation if you're not fluent in English in college. You'll
end up suffering not only academically but socially as well. I saw many
international students at UVA who came to the U.S. with a somewhat weak command
of the language, only made friends with students from their home country, and
left with less than great grades. It made me wonder why they came to begin
with.
How did you plan for what would happen after you graduated? Did you have to do much of your search yourself or did you use the use the services provided by your university and if so how helpful was this?
During my third year, I went up to the Dean of the Commerce
School and asked for his advice. He listed out several options but kept
repeating investment banking, specifically how one couldn't "go
wrong" with such a career track. While attending an investment symposium,
I heard an experienced investor talk about how investment banking was great
training ground for an investor. Looking around, I saw everyone else apply for
the same job, so I blindly joined the fray. I ended up securing an internship
at Credit Suisse's investment banking division in New York, which set me off on
my career in finance.
My internship yielded a job offer. I was very lucky, since I
graduated in the midst of the financial crisis in 2009 when few investment
banks were hiring. Having a job offer in my pocket also gave me the luxury of
coasting through my fourth year. I ended up spending most of my time creating a
non-profit NGO consulting group called SEED, which I understand, still
exists.
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| Yix with SEED exec board |
Can you describe where
you went after graduation and what you have done until last year?
I worked for 2 years in Credit Suisse’s investment banking
group in New York that serviced industrial companies. I worked on deals that
helped industrial companies raise either equity (issuing stock) or debt capital
(issuing bonds), and also mergers and acquisitions (one company buying
another). Those years were tough. All investment banks across Wall Street had
under-hired and didn’t foresee the snap back in demand for financial services
as the market recovered. It was normal for an analyst to work 100+hrs a week.
During my worst week, I worked 130+hrs. There would be nights where the only
rest you got was a 1 hour nap below your desk and a quick shower in the gym.
Needless to say, those years weren't the best in my life. Having said that, I
gained a practical education in corporate finance, made life-long friends with
my co-workers, and it gave me the opportunity to work in a hedge fund. I should
also mention that I started my life in New York with a good number of UVA
students, so in some ways, it felt like I never left college.
I'd always wanted to learn how to invest and thought
investment banking would teach me how. The best analogy I can give you is
corporate finance is like a language and investing is poetry. Investing banking
teaches you the language, but not how to write and appreciate poetry. The only
way to be a poet is to be under the tutelage of one. It's one of the few jobs
out there where a one-on-one apprenticeship is necessary to learn the
trade.
After Credit Suisse, I worked for a hedge fund in Boston for
3 years. Though at times stressful, I enjoyed the job thoroughly. My boss was a
great mentor to me and we formed a great team together. It’s an incredibly
challenging job, but one I found exciting, intriguing and intellectually
stimulating. More than anything else, it was the first job I could see myself
in for a long time.
However during one visit back to Singapore, I realized how
my family business needed me. It was a hard decision to turn my back on a great
firm and the five years I’d spent building a career in finance for myself, but
it was a decision I felt like I had to make. So I decided to return to
Singapore.
Over the past year you
have taken one of the most wide-ranging journeys I have seen (thank you for
posting such great photos and videos). Can you outline how you came up with the
idea to do what you did and then describe some of the highlights (and low lights
if you care to do this too)?
I never had the luxury of a gap year before I started
college (unless you consider the army a gap year) and had never traveled for a
long duration. It seemed natural to travel during this transition period in my
life, so I asked my family business for a year’s grace while I went off to
travel.
I planned out the first two months of the trip as meticulously
as I could. It turned out to be a bit of an exhausting whirlwind through Europe
and into the Middle East. I spent the next two months in the Middle East,
making up my schedule as I went along but following an overland route from
Egypt into Israel and finally Jordan. The two months after that were spent in
the Southern Africa sub-continent. By this point, I was truly backpacking. I
didn’t have a flight out and was free to go anywhere I wanted. Needless to say,
I was the most happy and stress free in the African leg of my trip. After a
hiatus in New York and Singapore, I spent 2-3 months in Central America scuba
diving. At one point, I spent almost 3 weeks on a scuba boat in the open ocean.
Thank goodness I have decent sea legs, probably thanks to the voyage my great
grandparents made from China to Singapore.
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| Yix with Icelandic horses |
It would take a book to write down all of the highlights of the
trip. But here’s a stab: hiking on an Icelandic glacier, a hot air balloon ride
in Cappadocia, Turkey, discovering freediving in Egypt, being in the water with
two humpback whales in Mozambique, an encounter with a 4m long Tiger shark in
Costa Rica, playing with a pod of wild dolphins in the Socorro islands and cave
diving in the Yucatan peninsula.
I had a good number of lowlights as well. I won’t share all
of them, but I was a first responder to a fatal car accident in South Africa. I
didn’t have latex gloves on me and had an open wound. Thankfully I tested
negative for HIV, which is lucky given 20% of the population in that part of
South Africa is HIV positive. The silver lining, if any, from this as well as
the other lowlights I had, is I walked away more confidant that I can handle
whatever comes my way on the road.
How has this journey
changed you?
It’s probably too soon to tell since I’m only beginning to
adjust back into the “normal world”. I will say that I’m glad I went on the
journey. It gave me a lot of time to think about my life thus far and wake up
every day to a clean slate. It was likely the last point in my life where I
could drop everything to chase rainbows and unicorns.
I sat down to write down the things I learnt from this trip
and almost ran out of pages. A lot of what I learnt is very personal. One
lesson I’m happy to share is there’s always a way out of a bad situation.
Whether it be a terrible job, a foul place you’re living in, a nasty roommate,
there’s always a way out. Sometimes I feel like it’s too easy to be tied down
to the status quo to the point of paralysis. Of course packing up and leaving
is a lot easier when you’re a transient being living out of a backpack, but it
can still be done no matter how much literal or figurative baggage you have.
Many people in the US
and other places too have stereotypes about Singapore being a place that
encourages hard work and commitment to education but sometimes at the cost of
encouraging developing a creative risk-taking self. You undercut this
stereotype about as well as anyone I know. What would you say to those who hold
these stereotypes?
There’s sadly some truth in the above-mentioned stereotype.
It’s probably made worse by the sample set of Singaporeans you tend to meet in
a good U.S. college. These are the Singaporeans who emerged successfully from
our academic pressure cooker and are generally armed with a scholarship from the
government that gives them a career in the civil service after graduation. The
upside from this is our best and brightest enter the government as civil
servants. The downside is this talent pool is steered away from the public
sector.
It’s worth mentioning that there are a good number of
Singaporeans who didn’t excel in the education system, waded into the world of
business on their own and are incredibly successful today. My best friend from
secondary school is one of these people. He was a B and C student who eschewed
university to build a successful business. In a perfect world, our education
system should be using him as a role model!
I also think that Singapore is becoming gradually
progressive in this regard. There’s still a belief among parents that your kid
should grow up to be a “doctor, lawyer, engineer or business person” (in that
order), but that belief is slowly giving way to “let your kid be whatever he
wants to be, you can’t control him or her”.
What are you doing now
and what are your future plans?
I'm working for my family business as an operations manager
and as the director of acquisitions. I plan to stay in the company
indefinitely.
Given that you have
always taken up challenges to go places around the world in ways few would, why
do you think this effort to explore is such an important part of who you are?
Singapore is a tiny country in a big world. All Singaporeans
travel, since there really isn't a whole lot to do at home. I'm lucky to have
the resources to be able to travel more extensively than most.
I'm a nature lover, specifically one who loves interacting
with it. Its little wonder I ended up scuba diving, freediving, hiking up
mountains and surfing during my travels. Once in a while, Mother Nature and lady
luck cooperate and let you experience something that makes you feel tiny and
insignificant. You can get a glimpse of some of these experiences though a
YouTube video, but living them is something else.
I also love how traveling, like life, can be unpredictable.
In a way, traveling feels like life at its rawest and unfiltered. You have no
idea what tomorrow brings and all you have is what’s in your backpack. For
example, I was hitchhiking in Malawi and ended up being picked up by a Malawian
member of parliament (MP). The MP gave me a glimpse of grass root politics,
bringing me to a funeral and soccer game. I would never have seen that side of
Malawi had I not stood at the side of the road with my thumb out! Of course
there are the unpleasant moments too, but as long as you learn to get away from
such situations, life is very fulfilling.
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| Yix with Malawi Member of Parliment |
Do you have advice for
people who might hesitant to take trips and be a part of challenges because it
might interfere with a fairly clear life plan?
All too often, we're gripped by fear of the unknown and
don't dare to take the next step forward. When it comes to traveling, I know
many Americans who refuse to travel because they see the world as a big bad
place where danger lurks in every corner. If you stay huddled up in your
comfort zone, you're never going to grow. Get out there and live a little. Make
your own judgments versus listening to horror stories from friends of friends.
Make mistakes, get swindled, get lost. It's easier to learn these lessons when
you're young and not have much to lose.
I also have a somewhat eastern belief in fate. Sometimes
life pushes you in a new direction you never anticipated. Rather than fight it
tooth and nail, go with it and enjoy the grand adventure. I can't say there's a
divine plan out there for everyone, but it does seem like everything happens
for a reason, though it's up to us to decide what we want to do about it.
Did your parents ever
worry (or perhaps they still do) about how adventurous you are?
My poor long suffering parents have been victims of my
policy of finding out about most of my adventures after the fact. It's a great
policy and one I highly recommend. The one time I violated this policy was when
I was cave diving in Mexico. Before I set off every morning, I'd send a note to
my mother wishing her good morning and telling her I loved her. This had an
unanticipated effect on my mother. It turned out she started to pray for me
daily and was incredibly relieved when I told her I was done cave diving!
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| Yix with lorikeet in South Africa |
Anything else you want
to add?
I should add that my finance education from the McIntire
School of Commerce came in very handy professionally. Training was a breeze in
Credit Suisse and I was regarded as an analyst who understood the technical
side of finance well, not because I was smart, but because I’d learnt
everything from McIntire! Hedge fund interviews are notoriously hard, and mine
was no different. The first round the interview I had with the hedge fund I
ultimately joined involved working through 3 technical questions. It turns out
I was the only candidate out of the 20-30 they interviewed who got all 3 right.
My McIntire education saved me again!
How do we determine a person’s character? I ask this
question because it is something a lot of people say they want to know about
when making decisions about applicants for schools or jobs. And yet all too
often it is a GPA or a score or something quantifiable that can get recorded
with data that will look good on some report.
Yix has demonstrated throughout his life that he wants to approach
the world as a leader and as someone who does not fit the traditional mold. It
helps that he has had a supportive family and a fine mind. He is also very
modest. His ability to secure a banking job during the economic crash underscores
that his performance at university far exceeds those of just about anyone. To
do this as an international student (who have much tougher times securing jobs
than US citizens) makes this accomplishment even more impressive.
I want to thank Yix for sharing his experiences and wisdom
here. I also want to tell a story. When he returned from his journey to Tibet he
brought me a work of art I still have today. He had very little space to bring
things from Tibet to the States and yet he thought to share something beautiful
with me. Yix has a heart that goes out to others. His founding of the SEED
group shows he does this in ways that reach far beyond those he knows. At the
same time, he also has chosen to return home to help his family business rather
than continue along the path he had forged with a hedge fund. For him there are
things that are far more important than money. Love of family, country and the
natural world all exist within him. As a global citizen he embodies the qualities
that we often don’t hear enough about and I am lucky I have been able to get to
know him and learn from him. I hope anyone reading his words will feel as I do.
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| Yix and his backpack |










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